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nbkval8
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« on: March 06, 2008, 11:22:18 AM »

Hi there - I have been reading these forums for about two weeks and while I am so happy for all of you and your success, I can't help but feel even more frustrated.

I lost about 30 pounds on my own - went from 180 to 150 but I am short so I still need to lose at least 20 more pounds.

I have been on HCG injections for 11 days now.  I have only gone from 150 to 146 in these 10 days an d have been stuck at 146 for about 5 days - even an apple day did nothing for me.  I was due for my period a few days ago and haven't gotten it and was hoping the lack of weight loss was due to that. But isn't this a long time to go without results.  I keep reading all these entries of people who cheated a little with this or that and still lost - why am I not moving.

The first thing I noticed was that I was only taking a 1/2 cc a day so I upped it yesterday to a full cc but still nothing today.

My other thought is I am eating my fruit for breakfast, does your system need to remain empty until lunch to burn stored fat?Huh

My other problem is that although I am not a vegetarian - I am going through a phase where I am just not into meat.

My typical day is as follows - please feel free to tell me what I am doing wrong -
Breakfast - apple and water
between meals - tea and water (tea with stevia for sweetner)
Lunch and dinner is a salad with either a few shrimp or a piece of flounder/tilapia or sole - and the other fruit..

PLEASE HELP!!!

thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 11:40:42 AM »

I think that you need more protein, for sure. If you don't like meet try eggs and cottage cheese but eat PROTEIN and no more or LESS calories than 500.
I hope it helps,
Lila
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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 11:52:50 AM »

thanks Lila - for a few days I was eating low fat cottage cheese - the little individual packs but I cut those out because I saw that although they have only 90 calories, they have 2 grams of fat and 8 grams of carbs - when I compared that to the fish it seemed like too much fat and carbs - what do you think???
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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 12:31:32 PM »

Hi nbkval8,

How did you mix your HCG?  If you mixed like most of us do, where you only need .5cc to get the same amount of HCG, you should not be doubling that to 1cc.  Please let us know exactly how you mixed the hcg, so we can help you with this.  Later, Toni
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2008, 09:16:23 AM »

wow-theres so many posts yesterday-Im gonna try and comment on a few-i cant remember names but-----I wouldnt have DOUBLED the hcg round-You are already getting 187.-that would give you 374!!!!And it only takes 125 to work!!!!--Id be careful there.As a matter of a fact i lowered mine to .40=140 and works great and gives me a few extra shots at the end of the protocol.
HAircolor?i colored my hair 3  times  a few days ago-I couldnt get it right-It never effected the hcg!
The one who eats 2 salads every day--You dont have to have a salad -or 2--everyday-It will get boring quick---cook/boil some cabbage-or have saurkraut--a bunch of celery stuffed with cottage cheese----a green /yellow or red pepper---steamed or raw--raddishes---i boiled them and mashed like potatoes-they were good.--change it up a bit-I know we are limited  but it will get boring as "chicken" but theres lots of alternatives.Be creative.Lots of things to do with apples to----To the one who said   something to the effect of eating later in the day--Think as your body as a furnace---You need to keep it stoked at all times so i think you should eat at least 1/2 a apple or grapefruit in the morning then roughly-11 or so-lunch-then a hr or 2 later the other half--then supper then another apple or grapefruit and in between lots of water -teas-coffee--then you constantly have something going on and you dont have the old hunger pains.or the starvation process going on.Just a suggestion-I believe in many meals a day-all day-----spreading it out is key--not 3period.
These are just my opinions.There was also someone that was eating ok but i didnt see any fiber---no melbas were involved---The rye ones are the healthiest--you should have your 2 allowed a day---I guess and forget sometimes that there are many doing KTs-so maybe you dont need them on his---Sorry-if thats the caes-Im not 100% familiar with his food choices!Have a great day all
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2008, 10:13:10 AM »

Whoever it was that said they doubled there round---I copied this off of pounds and inches--

For instance, if
the diet is increased from 500 to 600 or 700 Calories, the loss of weight is quite unsatisfactory. If the
daily dose of HCG is raised to 200 or more units daily its action often appears to be reversed,

possibly because larger doses evoke diencephalic counter-regulations.
Everyone whether you are on Kts or Dr S's protocol you must read and re read a ton of times -POUNDS and Inches!!! Just to save your selves some trouble and to plain learn more-It seems everytime i read it-I find something i hadnt found the time before----
Bren
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2008, 03:00:56 PM »

thank you all for your suggestions - they have been most helpful.  I now have a new dilema - I was supposed to receive my next round of shots today and this morning was my last iunjection.  I am now told I have to wait a month for the next shipment.

A) What happens to the protocol at this point if I can't get any more medication and

B) Does anyone know whare I can get some quickly and reliably?

thank you -

PS - If I can't get any now do I just go back to dieting normally?
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2008, 03:14:43 PM »

If you live near the mexican border you could get some at a tijuana pharmacy. You could get Releana, the oral version of HCG, I think it would take a few days. Or you could buy from someone on any one of these forums that has extra...
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2008, 05:56:46 PM »

We just got our HCG and I am not sure if I mixed it correctly.  I ordered 1500 IU, but they sent me 2000 IU instead.  I mixed 2ml of bac water into one vial of HCG.  I placed all the mixed HCG with the large needles as instructed (mixed seperate) into one sterile bottle and placed it in the fridge.  I think I mixed it to strong, so instead of .5 cc of the mixed solution I did .4 and then .1 of straight bac water.  Have only done one injection, so no results yet.  Wife read lbs. & inches and said for the 1st 2 days of injections, no diet?  If we read it right you are not to start the 500 calarie a day diet until the 3rd day of injections?Huh? Huh

Are the large needles strictly for mixing the HCG?
Should you use a new large needle for mixing each vial of HCG
Can you mix an entire cycle in a sterile bottle provided with the supplies and keep it in the fridge?

I need to lose about 80 lbs and wife about 50, how many cycles are suggested?
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2008, 11:32:30 PM »

2000 iu vials should give you 10 injections of 200 iu at .5 ml each. That means you should have mixed 5 ml of the bacteriostatic water with your vial. You are probably getting 400 iu in those injections. That's not good. You need to make your injections .2 to be getting 200 iu, which is the maximum amount you should have. I don't know what advice to give you except add 2.5 ml of bacteriostatic water to your mixture before your next injection , or only inject .2 for the remainder of this mixture.
And, yes the first 2 days are your loading days, and it takes a while for the HCG to build up in your system and take effect.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2008, 04:25:45 AM »

Dercat-
Wow-yeah-Kathys right--You should have taken the big needle{for water only}and drawn 2 ml of bac water and mixed it in you hcg vial--Then 3 more ml to put in sterile bottle and now add your 2ml mix to that-giving you 5 ml of mix.It only takes 125 iu to work and yes-youd be getting 400--to much-It will reverse the effects.Do as Kathy said and add 3 ml of bac water if you only have the 2ml in the mix.
And its very crucial to the diet to eat high fat foods--cake-donuts-fattening foods-french fries-etc for first two days of injections-Those are LOAD days--then day 3 starts your vlcd.Its ok to gain 3-4 5- 6 lbs on the first 2 load days-You will lose it very fast the first week of vlcd.But you must load for 2 days!
Yes-Large needles are for drawing purpose only.Dont use for shots.
Yes-new needle each time per vial.
If you are mixing with the water you got-it lasts 7-8 days-If you buy bacteriostaic water separate--it will make whatever you mix last for up to 30 days or so.I would suggest you only mix 1 vial at a time.Each 23 day supply you lose an average of 15-20 lbs-a 40 day round you lose about 40 pounds.Depends on which route you take.And how well you can follow the program!?
Stick to the things on Simeons protocol and you should do well-Good luck-
Brenda
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2008, 01:49:55 PM »

OOPS Kathy--You said 2.5 add because i take it that hes already done a shot? Yeah or the 3ml wont hurt either----Im glad your on your toes Kath!! Wink Someones gotta be---Have a happy Thursday all! Grin
Brenda
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 01:06:33 PM »

This is the first time I have participated in any forum whatsoever.  I am on day 10 of phase 2 and I have lost 8.5 lbs.  I am delighted with this because I am never able to lose weight.  I have had a couple of days in which I have been very cranky and emotionally low.  Reading the comments on this forum has really helped. 

Tears are still running down my face, but I am going to go pray, eat the Melba Toast, and hope the emotional low passes. 

Thank you all for your posts.  Your encouragement for those who need it makes a difference to me. 

Thanks again.
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2008, 01:26:40 PM »

Quick, take a B-complex vitamin with your next meal. It's a quick and natural way to lift your spirits. Also take a nap and make sure you are getting enough sleep at night. Put a smile on your face, even when you don't feel like it; it's really hard to cry when you are smiling!!! You are doing great!
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2008, 06:41:10 AM »

Hi. I just saw your email and noticed that your eating shrimp as your meal. This is not one of the meats for you to eat on this protocal. Did you read the book by Kevin Trudeau? In it is the web site to Dr. Simeons manuscript "Pounds and Inches". Read it several times so you understand that you cannot wavier or change this diet at all or your results will be disapointing. I put a drop of lotion on my hand and I gained a half pound the next day. Everyone reacts different , but this protocal works. Another thing is when you have your lunch and dinner make sure that they are not the some combonation of foods. Example: Lunch have handful of mixed greens(Sam's club has a good one, and cheap) organic chicken(purdue chicken does fine from Sams or BJ wholesale club) cooked with salt and ground pepper and any spices you like and Braggs vinager. Dinner have your organic steak with either onions or fresh tommatos or celery(only one choice)  add fresh garlic and sweet paprika. Cook and eat. Don't forget to have your fruit(organic apple or grapefruit or strawberries) You can have one of your fruits for breakfast that is ok. Don't forget your Organic Green Tea(Sams club has one that is good and cost a lot less money).Good Earth has a tea called Good Earth Original Sweet & Spicy tea&Herb Blend that I mix with my green tea and it taste like I put sugar in it( you don't have to use up your stevia ). It is 100% natural and a good source of antioxidants. Use one tea bag of green and one of Good Earth . Drink alot of pure water. I got an Aqua Sana for about $ 99.00, and attached it to my kitchen faucet. Also bought there water bottle for $25.00(a God sent and money saver) I take it everywhere. You can put any kind of reg water in it and it has a filteration system so it comes out pure. Don't forget to fill it up several times and squirt it out into your plants or its going to taste like salt. You should not drink cold water(slows your matab.)so this comes in handy. No lotion watch what your putting in your hair/face, and what your washing your body with (can't use just anything). I know this diet is HARD and BORING but its only for a few months of your life. You really cannot CHEAT. No going out to dinner or you compermize your diet. Go out and only have coffee(only one tab. of milk)with stevia, and have fun with your girlfriends. Just remember has GREAT YOUR GOING TO LOOK AND FEEL after you get done. Good Luck and God Bless.
E.Patino
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